tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post7498238387947968051..comments2024-03-25T14:53:54.413+00:00Comments on PuzzleMad: When is a puzzle truly solved? - Gordian KnotKevinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05649523779226834414noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-84949793115399501492014-01-02T12:21:55.821+00:002014-01-02T12:21:55.821+00:00Keep at it Geraint! I had to do it quite a few tim...Keep at it Geraint! I had to do it quite a few times. There was never a lightbulb moment with this one but more of a progressive understanding - it's as good a feeling as the aha moment but slower!Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649523779226834414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-50590650388851726482014-01-02T00:29:15.494+00:002014-01-02T00:29:15.494+00:00I received this puzzle (by a different manufacture...I received this puzzle (by a different manufacturer to the one reviewed) as a surprise gift from a thoughtful relative for Christmas. The first thing I did was check here and after reading Kevin's excellent (as always) review I couldn't wait to get cracking. After fiddling with it on-and-off during the last week, plus at least the same amount of time thinking about it, I manged to free the loop and re-set it this evening. Unfortunately, as Kevin says in his review, its method is still as clear as mud and I'm still baffled by it - there was no "lightbulb moment" and I can still find myself stumped while fiddling with it. I'm determined to understand it though and will continue fiddling until eureka dawns. Thanks again for another fantastic review. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13734317614314573699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-40606020558486660142012-06-13T16:57:30.761+01:002012-06-13T16:57:30.761+01:00I guess it is just semantics but as a puzzler hopi...I guess it is just semantics but as a puzzler hoping to achieve true professional status, I always would wish to achieve true mastery!Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649523779226834414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-91635437923225084042012-06-13T16:52:44.979+01:002012-06-13T16:52:44.979+01:00Puzzle solution is independent of puzzle understan...Puzzle solution is independent of puzzle understanding. To truly solve a puzzle, you need to solve it. Period.<br />To truly understand a puzzle...that involves complete mastery. Get the terms straight, and you're goodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-86657560309292393392012-05-08T20:00:19.153+01:002012-05-08T20:00:19.153+01:00Only 1st dan. One day I'll be a 7th or 8th dan...Only 1st dan. One day I'll be a 7th or 8th danKevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649523779226834414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-70715219799402533082012-05-08T19:19:26.030+01:002012-05-08T19:19:26.030+01:00Very good ... you have earned the puzzling black b...Very good ... you have earned the puzzling black belt!Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10140920751826036814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-196755663050321272012-05-07T22:46:43.765+01:002012-05-07T22:46:43.765+01:00I guess you had to hit it!!!I guess you had to hit it!!!Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649523779226834414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-12255529450266944782012-05-07T22:45:49.178+01:002012-05-07T22:45:49.178+01:00Very few of my friends are polite!!!Very few of my friends are polite!!!Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649523779226834414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-33955647368601733142012-05-07T22:24:06.890+01:002012-05-07T22:24:06.890+01:00Aha, very clever. Of course if you set the goal, ...Aha, very clever. Of course if you set the goal, you can require reassembly! The polite puzzler, of course, always returns the puzzle in the same condition it started in. Easier said than done, though.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10140920751826036814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-12099380032204916082012-05-07T22:21:14.259+01:002012-05-07T22:21:14.259+01:00Indeed ... puzzling and Kung Fu seem to have simil...Indeed ... puzzling and Kung Fu seem to have similarities. I remember once I was completely stumped on a burr puzzle and asked Brian Pletcher for a hint. He said "You have to do something to it before you begin." In retrospect this statement appears completely useless and circular. The funny thing is that a light bulb went off and I went back to the puzzle and solved it in about 20 seconds! The hint was perfect, but undecipherable to those not "in the know".Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10140920751826036814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-128014544210154012012-05-07T20:30:46.429+01:002012-05-07T20:30:46.429+01:00I like it, George! It also likens puzzling to Kung...I like it, George! It also likens puzzling to Kung fu!<br /><br />And...<br /><br />I am a master!Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649523779226834414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-91581729430057899172012-05-07T20:28:28.711+01:002012-05-07T20:28:28.711+01:00I always imagined that reassembly was intrinsic to...I always imagined that reassembly was intrinsic to the challenge! I think I'll refrain from telling my friends that. They are not allowed to do anything else until they have put it back together!! They get my instructions not those on the box!Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649523779226834414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-6849086189251667282012-05-07T18:54:12.405+01:002012-05-07T18:54:12.405+01:00Instead of "truly solved" in your blog p...Instead of "truly solved" in your blog post, how about using the word "mastered"? When your friends come back, you can nod wisely and recite: "Ah ... Grasshopper, I see that you have solved the puzzle, but you have not mastered it. Please try again."Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10140920751826036814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-28895356724111584572012-05-07T18:49:41.413+01:002012-05-07T18:49:41.413+01:00I do not think solving a disassembly puzzle requir...I do not think solving a disassembly puzzle requires one to assemble it. For the Gordian Knot for example, don't the instructions say something like "Goal: remove the loop". Therefore, once this is accomplished, the puzzle is solved. It is true that resetting the puzzle requires one to put the loop back on, but in my mind this is not part of solving the puzzle. Reassembly may be even harder, but this task falls ultimately to the puzzle owner. ;-)Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10140920751826036814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3341941751324943000.post-3955258379129942192012-05-07T08:18:56.991+01:002012-05-07T08:18:56.991+01:00Hi, I agree with you about dexterity puzzles. For ...Hi, I agree with you about dexterity puzzles. For me they are still a gray zone between puzzle and toy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com